Jan. 22, 2026

#23 - Hamse Warfa

#23 - Hamse Warfa

Hamse Warfa is the CEO of World Savvy, a non-profit organization that equips educators and students with the skills, perspectives, and global awareness needed to thrive in an interconnected world and drive positive change. In 2022, he became the first Somali-American presidential appointee in U.S. history, as a Senior Advisor in the U.S. State Department's Office of the Undersecretary for Civilian Security, Democracy, and Human Rights. Prior to that, he was the highest-ranking African immigrant official in the Minnesota State Government, appointed by Governor Tim Walz as the Deputy Commissioner for Workforce Development. In 2016, he co-founded Ban-Qu, a blockchain-powered software company. He is also the founder of Tayo Consulting Group.

He was born in Mogadishu, Somalia. After the outbreak of civil war there, he and his family fled to Kenya, where they lived in a series of refugee camps. Though he did not receive regular formal education until he enrolled in high school in the United States, he now holds a B.A. from San Diego State University, a Masters from Springfield College, a Ph.D. from Hamline University, and he also studied at Harvard. He is the author of two books: America, Here I Come: A Somali Refugee's Quest for Hope and The Transformational Leader: 12 Practices for Driving Lasting Change.

To learn more, visit his website HERE.

Hamse Warfa

Hamse and his mom

With then-President Joe Biden

With Minnesota Governor Tim Walz

Hamse's first book

 

SHOW CREDITS

SP/FS Producer & Host: Christopher Wurst

Opening Voices: Dmitri Wurst, Elena Wurst, Kjara Wurst, Christopher Wurst

Cold Open Music: BWM – The Brina Band

Dubious Ant Deb Music: Cass County Beauty Queen – Alan Singley

Episode Music:

In Paler Skies – Blue Dot Sessions

Roundpine – Blue Dot Sessions

My Favorite Regret (Instrumental) – Josh Woodward

Pastel de Nata – Blue Dot Sessions

A Perceptible Shift – Andy G. Cohen

Coffee Break – Andrea Torti

Supermoon – Kai Engal

Interview date: January 15, 2026